I am depressed...

[herveus]

My King writes:

This is just a quick note to inform all order principals of a slight wording change that will take place during Our upcoming curia. This is simply to bring Kingdom Law into a more unified and codified set of verbiage. Nothing in the process of choosing new principals will change, the Crown will still solicit the counsel of the orders before making a decision. Again, this is simply a clarification of wording since there are no "votes" and the selection of order principals has never been based purely on a majority rules scenario. Copied below is the current section of law followed, in italics, by the planned revision:

It's less than accurate. It certainly goes to great lengths to downplay the scope and significance of the change. I have written to my Crown to offer my counsel as a peer, but I fear that the King is resolute and will not be swayed. I could write more, but that would be a Bad Thing. You may extrapolate.

Cousin stitchwitch, I do not think that I will be considering quite the course that you have spoken of, but I fear that this will give further impetus to some significant changes myself -- changes driven in part by non-SCA factors as well.

*sigh*

Update: I have written to both Crown and Coronet (Crown before posting this).

Comments

[dr-zrfq.livejournal.com]

"Less than accurate"? I'd call it a blatant untruth, and request the opinions of former royalty to back that up.

I am not going to Unevent; I don't really want to be in the middle of that firestorm... and I am strongly tempted to change my SCA address to somewhere in Pennsylvania.

[amykb.livejournal.com]

I've been wanting to do that since I have been here, but it is just too far away to play in the East on an even semi-regular basis. I am stuck here, so I have to make the best of things. Thankfully, I like a lot of the people I have met, I just don't like the culture, and what I see him doing is just an extension of the culture I have seen. As a Peer, I have a responsibility, but I am having a hard time living up to it when every interaction I have depresses me and makes me homesick.

[stitchwhich.livejournal.com]

I know my planned action is not everyone's - but I also know that *someone* has to be a leader and say, "There is another way to be involved in the SCA that does not involve catering to the egos of the few" because otherwise, we're going to see an even faster exodus than we've already seen - out of the Society, rather than out of the kingdom-infrastructure.

When a person says that they are King and the will of the people is unimportant, then sometimes the best reply is to say, "then you shall be the king of a kingdom of one". It is, in fact, the response that the martial community advocates when there is a rhino-hider on the field.

I will be at Unevent to stnad up and state my views. I hope that whoever does so first, all the rest of us stand in support to show Logan that his proposed change of kingdom law is unwise.

[kass-rants.livejournal.com]

What? Royalty in your adopted Kingdom don't always have it up their noses and do things like they really *are* something other than the hottest stick of the day.

The problem with calling someone "Your Majesty" is that, eventually, they start to believe it. Goes to their heads. They think they have power.

Besides the idea that a title based on the guild system isn't decided upon by the guild and guild alone is more than a little ludicrous.

Spoken by not-a-peer. =)

[kass-rants.livejournal.com]

I tend to agree with you, T. Staying with it and "trying to make it better from within" isn't the action that's needed. You've been doing that for years. This needs a short, sharp smack over the nose with a heavy stick.

You play the game like an ass and no one will want to play with you anymore. That's what I think you're saying. And I wish you luck!

[luscious-purple.livejournal.com]

Maybe it was, um, edited a bit....

[graylion.livejournal.com]

hmm, that has a certain tendency to remind me of events in my kingdom during the last reign ...

[herveus.livejournal.com]

That was the introductory text, copied and pasted. It was followed by the existing text followed by the proposed new text. It was alleged that the changes were "in italics", but that detail didn't come through in a text-only medium.

The missive was signed "Logan, Rex". Rowan's name did not appear anywhere in the communique.

If He didn't compose them, he certainly claimed them for his own. See also "Flag Lieutenant".

[martelvonc.livejournal.com]

Ok, I think I missed this. Is it in the upcoming Acorn?

[herveus.livejournal.com]

I don't know. Tirloch forwarded to the Laurel list the missive Logan sent out to all the order principals.

The big stinkiness mostly occurred on the Golden Dolphin list when our current principal, being now also Princess, spoke of how her successor would be selected. When kingdom law was cited, Logan displayed considerable displeasure with this "surprising" finding. I guess he had not noticed that part of law any of the other times he reigned, since it has been that way since before he ever won a crown.

[martelvonc.livejournal.com]

Thanks I think I will refresh my memory of Kingdom Law.....

prosacic

[dameroksanne.livejournal.com]

You just summed up my absence in the last few years more elegantly than I have ever been able to.

Logan knows exactly what I think about him. I told him at my Laureling.

Those people don't give a rat's ass about anybody but themselves, IMO.

[40sw.livejournal.com]

not related to anything at all but I'm absolutely in love with your flashing reindeer icon

[amykb.livejournal.com]

It is just a weird culture here. I can't see any Atlantian standing up in Curia and telling the crown "Go ahead, I'll win the next crown and change it back. Have your moment of power if it makes you feel special" I have seen Balfar and Lucan both do that. And win the next crown.

The East, and Eastern crowns, tends to respect the rights of the orders and the subjects, and to suck it up when a bunch of Peers tell them, gently and politely, to put down the crack pipe. They may *still* do what they want to do, but the next crown will put things back to the original way if they aren't given a DAMN good reason not to (ask me some time and I will explain the whole email list thing--You will be amused). I don't know how this current mess is going to turn out. I don't understand enough about how Order Principals are used here, as the East doesn't use them at all, but I know that this is showing a great disrespect for the orders, for the members of those orders, and for the people in general. I am just really sorry that Rowan is getting painted with the brush along with Logan. She doesn't deserve to be seen as as disrespectful and arrogant as he is.

[amykb.livejournal.com]

Besides the idea that a title based on the guild system isn't decided upon by the guild and guild alone is more than a little ludicrous.

As has been said by many over the years. Problem is, there is no way to change that at this point. It bothers me though that a Guild Master has to take another name. I think Chiurgeons are using Mentor.

[amykb.livejournal.com]

I can't be there. You carry my steel, my Brother.

[thatpotteryguy.livejournal.com]

You have my support. My work prevents me from being there in person, but what strength and influence I may have is yours.

Your decision is not the decision I could have made, but it is the right path for you, and I hope that you walk it well. I stand by you in this, and at Unevent.

[stitchwhich.livejournal.com]

Please write to TRM and TRH - (especially the Highnesses) since you can't be there. I don't believe, at this point, that Logan will change his course but Their Highnesses are not so, ah, determined and Her Majesty would probably appreciate the words too.

[stitchwhich.livejournal.com]

Kingdomers do not recognise that. Please write to TRMs and TRHs to express your feelings about this - if HRM decides to continue, perhaps TRHs will resolve to change things back after His Majesty steps down. Assuming it goes that far.

[celemon.livejournal.com]

And the royalty in many places seems to believe, oddly enough, that having an order principal they picked is going to somehow make their lives easier, instead of fostering resentment and making sure they never hear the advice they need.

[mysryael.livejournal.com]

See also the knighting of a brother by a brother (biological siblings) in Caid so that the younger brother could win crown and knight his older brother because the Knight's counsel wouldn't consider either brother as a candidate.

Funny thing is that neither brother is much at events these days and the older brother just got sent up for R and D.

[syrrichard.livejournal.com]

It would be "odd" for Logan to have missed this as he has been a principal I believe for both the Sea Stags and the Chivalry. I'm pretty sure about that.

Can anyone explain the difference between someone who wins the Crowns' popularity contest and someone who wins the Orders' popularity contest?

It seemed to me that the Orders had been pretty good at house-keeping their principals. The SCA is just like the rest of the world, no one makes a new rule without the push of something happening to inspire it.

Wonder what happened...

[celemon.livejournal.com]

How very chivalrous of them...and one so sees why the knights did not particularly want them as fellow chivalry.
R and D?

[mysryael.livejournal.com]

revocation and denial of membership.

[celemon.livejournal.com]

Oh, lovely. What a delightful example for all aspiring young fighters out there...